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Is the chocolate persimmon different from the chocolate sapote

I'm confused are chocolate persimmons and chocolate sapotes different fruits, or just different names for the same tree?

Richard Primbs
Encinitas CA

The following thread was started by Richard Primbs on September 26, 2007 at 8:46 am PST


Different

The chocolate sapote is the black sapote.

The chocolate persimmon is a type of persimmon with dark streaking in it, depending on the pollination.

They are related and the black sapote is like a tropical persimmon (being frost sensitive).

The above followup was added by Tom on September 26, 2007 at 9:56 am PST.


Both are diospyros

Chocolate Persimmon is a variety of Dispyros kaki
Black Persimmon is Dispyros digyna
George San Diego

The above followup was added by George on September 30, 2007 at 8:09 pm PST.


Persimmon Pollination

Diospyros just as a spelling correction.......
Tom..... you seem to know a bit about persimmon. I have a chocolate persimmon and want the pollinated fruit. Do you know what variety would be a good pollinator for it?
George

The above followup was added by George on September 30, 2007 at 8:13 pm PST.


Pollinizer

I haven't grown persimmons in a few years now but, the CRFG info sheet on Persimmons suggests the 'Gailey' variety as a good cross pollinator in general.

I think the 'Chocolate' can be cross pollinated by any other variety and 'Chocolate' itself is also used as a pollinator for other varieties.

The above followup was added by Tom on October 02, 2007 at 10:52 am PST.


Forgot to add

When I said by any other variety I meant any other Asian variety of persimmon.

There are Amercian persimmons too that I don't know too much about.

The above followup was added by Tom on October 02, 2007 at 10:54 am PST.






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