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Jujube "suckers"

Postby Twan » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:49 pm

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I assume it's called "suckers", as I have two jujube trees, and far away from these trees, even 15 yards, there sprout many "suckers" of the jujube trees, especially the "honey jar", the one that has sharp and hard thorns. I keep cutting them down, but then they keep popping up more and more. Is it normal? I have never seen any other trees that have that kind of "runner" that long and even under the cement walk way. Any other ways to get rid of these suckers, once for all?

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby tsaephan » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:43 pm

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It's normal and gets worse, trust me! Lol. The roots aren't deep and spreads very very far, whenever you damage the roots, a sucker pops up. A full tree can be established from sucker in a year or two.

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby Twan » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:13 pm

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Thanks for the input, Tsanphan. I guess I will have to be diligent in getting rid of the suckers wherever I see them :- (

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby badman62 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:35 am

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some plants are grafted and some are not.
I just bought a LI, and it is obviously grafted.
i also have 2 from a trade with no name, a Coco and 2 sherwoods.
they are all small except the no-name which is about 10+ft now.

if you have suckers and the tree is grafted
im guessing all you could use the sucker for would be root-stock.
and my understanding is most root-stock have very small fruit and are not productive.

whatever my no-name is, im pretty sure it is from air-layer, or ?
it doesnt appear to be grafted, but its productive with good sized fruit.

the Coco i got 3 to 4 months ago
and it has gone from 1ft tall, to about 4ft tall
its a rocket.
they have the ability to grow very fast given the right environment.

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby tsaephan » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:19 pm

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I believe i gave you the no namers, they are suckers. I remember mailing you some suckers with small amount of root attached, I'm impressed they survived, but then again I am not. These jujubes are tough as nails!

I thought they were Li, that's what the seller of the house I lived in told me, but Axel said that Li were only propagated by grafting (makes sense), so I have no idea. They could be seedlings? Because I see no signa of being grafted onto the mother plants and all root suckers produce same size, look, and tasting fruits. They grow fast too!

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby badman62 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:55 pm

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tsaephan
so you are the culprit ?
hahaha
yeah, one of those has really taken off.
another one had a hard time when i put it in the ground a few months ago
but, its now starting to sprout new growth as well.

Those plants sold me on Jujube. i love them now.
since then, ive bought a Coco, a Li, and got 2 Shermans in a trade.
ALL of them have at least some flowers or fruit.
the larger one you gave me has at least 20 fruit on it now
and ive eaten about 10 this week.

but i dont see why it couldnt be a Li ?
if a Li was air-layered long ago, and it put out suckers ?
or, do air-layers not sucker ?

this part of m yard is now named
Jujube corner... its the 4 smaller ones in the pic, the parger one is only a few feet away
Image

you can see how tall it is now
and this pic is a couple of months ago
its probably added %15 to the mass...

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fruit !
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Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby Twan » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:45 pm

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Wow, the fruits are huge. I saw some fruit set on my "honey jar" and "Sugar cane" jujube trees, but nothing yet from the GH688 tree. I have been digging up the suckers and try to get rid of them as many as I can. What a chore :-(

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby badman62 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:00 am

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Twan wrote:Wow, the fruits are huge. I saw some fruit set on my "honey jar" and "Sugar cane" jujube trees, but nothing yet from the GH688 tree. I have been digging up the suckers and try to get rid of them as many as I can. What a chore :-(


i had thought that too, the fruit were large...
But, this Li i had got produced fruit twice that size.

Would love to make a trade
ive been looking for Sugar Cane and Honey Jar.

i could take a cutting off my Coco
the fruit was smaller, but it was very sweet and soft.
i also have lot sof other stuff to trade...
fig, POM, guava... lots more...
looking for anything ?

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby Twan » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:07 pm

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Hi Badman62,
I don't have any more space in my yard for a trade. You are welcome to get the honey jar if you want to dig it up. I live south of San Diego, not far from the border to Mexico. PM me if you want to take the tree.

Re: Jujube "suckers"

Postby Twan » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:21 pm

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Badman62, this is Twan again. I will be out of the country for three weeks, starting next week. So if I don't respond to you right away, please understand. I'll try to remember to reply to you when I get back, if you PM me. Sorry about that.

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