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Re: Proposed Hardy developed Mangos went up in smoke ?

Postby Steve in Los Osos » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:27 pm

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There is some seasonal variation, mostly in the average lows. And of course we do get cold snaps and the freaky hot spells when temps can rise into the ridiculous range of 90-100+F. Very rare.

This is the first year of promising production for the Glen mango. In the past we've collected about 20 fruit from the manila tree. I'm probably over thinning, but I want to coax the trees into regular bearing, even if it takes some time.

The whole purpose for the existence of papayas outside their normal range is to break your heart, IMHO. I finally got over it.

Re: Proposed Hardy developed Mangos went up in smoke ?

Postby Ben » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:12 am

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Steve in Los Osos wrote:
The whole purpose for the existence of papayas outside their normal range is to break your heart, IMHO. I finally got over it.



Brilliant! :D :D :D :D :D

I'll still try anyway, alas I am a bit slow :?

Re: Proposed Hardy developed Mangos went up in smoke ?

Postby badman62 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:47 pm

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i guess i am a die-hard papaya fan.
i love the fruit. i eat at least 1 per week, every week.
great for digestion etc...

i planted one about 3ft from my house 4 yrs ago.
it comes back every year now.
when the winter has a freeze, it takes a lot longer for it to produce.
sometimes not until Sept.
This last Jan, we had 1 night at 27F.
coldest ive seen in at least 10 yrs.
it still came back. The trunk is the size of my waist now.
i hate to cut it down.
i have 2 from seed this year already with small fruit.

they actually make pretty good mulch.

AS far as mango goes
i grew one from seed. had 3 fruit then this Jan hit them with 27F.
its coming back from the roots
so are 2 more from seed in ground.
i lost 7 of 8 in containers.

ive had a few mango hit 29 or 30F
and have no problems, or maybe minor leaf damage.
this year was very different.
It also had rained for days before hand, and the ground was saturated.
i am thinking it froze the roots on the container plants at least.

just got a Baileys Marvel
and put it in ground 2 ft from the house...
and have a couple of plants nearby the also give it a micro-climate.
crossing fingers.

Re: Proposed Hardy developed Mangos went up in smoke ?

Postby Ben » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:35 am

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Hi Badman,

You have a definite advantage with year-around heat, it makes a huge difference. Even though my extreme lows for the year are much milder (often not below 40F) the much cooler temps year around make mangos and papaya challenging. High altitude tropicals grow fine here, avocado, white sapote, cherimoya etc. Still, these climates like mine and Steve in Los Osos are probably ideal for growing mangos and papayas in simple greenhouses. I must get around to putting one up!

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