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HAVE persimmon wood

Postby ellen in berkeley » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:42 pm

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Hyakume and Saijo.
Meant to take to scion exchange but didn't get there.
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Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby Brian » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:53 pm

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Do you want any other types to graft onto your tree?

Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby ellen in berkeley » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:14 pm

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doubt it. too many kinds, hard to balance. but otoh, what do you have?

Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby Brian » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 pm

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Will have to check the fridge I'm useing (at someone elses house tomorrow.

Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby Axel » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:29 am

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Brian, if you have extra wood, i could use some. Let me know. I am looking for the early persimmon varieties, non-astringent.
Tropical gardening in both Kaua'i windward Sunset H2/USDA 12b and Fallbrook Sunset 23/USDA 10b.

Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby DavidLJ48 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:16 pm

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I have a little wood from Imoto and Suruga, that I collected on March 3rd and put in the frig. I grafted what I wanted from the wood yesterday. A couple smaller sizes on each, most is about pencil size.

Ellen with the Hyakume, when it says needs treated, are they just speaking of cold or fee treatment, do you know.

I had hoped to had collected more varieties, but the retired DDS, once a parent CRFG member, only had Saijo, Imoto and Suruga, had a acre or two of trees, a small orchard. I visited his place some years back and remembered the persimmons, so decided to call and ask; though just thought he had a family orchard with many varieties. Though did get the Suruga I wanted, my graft of it last season failed, when all the rest took. Joe Real told me recently that he thinks the Suruga at the Scion Exchanges is miss labeled and not really Suruga, as his graft of it, fruits don't seem right. Anyone else notice that ?

I do have a couple more small limbs that could be grafted, so could do them, if I got wood pretty fast, now is time, my plant is starting to push. The Hyakume sounds interesting, but how good is it, being it was cut so long ago ?

Anyone have any Tamopan or Hiratanenshi (what does it mean, pollination-variant?), a couple more that Joe Real recommended as better flavored.
David
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Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby ellen in berkeley » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:08 pm

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darn it, i was sure i posted a response here.

so again:
i don't know of hyakume requiring any kind of treatment.

pollenation dependent means if it has set seeds it's non-astringent, if it hasn't it's astringent. pollenation independent is either astringent or non-astringent regardless of seeds.

hyakume is pollenation dependent.

i can't vouch for the viability of the hyakume wood, but you're welcome to it if you want to try it. i have certainly seen scionwood keep longer than this in the fridge.

Re: HAVE persimmon wood

Postby DavidLJ48 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:35 pm

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Ellen

I would need 3/8 inch wood, think I can choke down the limb and do 1/4 inch, but would just be in older and harder wood, and bit more difficult to do the cuts.

I only have like 3 limbs, that are open, used all of the others on the Suruga and Imoto, to make sure I get takes and most likely did more then I needed too. I am always never quite sure what the take will be, so over do it.

I will PM on the site, to give you my address.

David
Sunset zone 14, USDA zone 9b


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