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Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:05 pm
by DavidLJ48
The seedling in the pic, looks like my best out of 2 dozen seedlings that sprouted. It looked like yours, and finally died a couple seasons ago, it seems to be a soil problem, fatal leaf burn symptom and slow growth. My struggled for a few years or more, but enviably died, like the others which died within their first year of life.

My plant, was just a little taller then yours, but looked the same, looked better this time of year, but most of the leaves were dead by fall. One reason I finally decided to go with Myrica cerifera, for rootstock.

I was frustrated, I used a good potting soil, but some have said, that planting and native soils is better, it could be they don't like manufacture fake soils, or so much organic material.

I think the some of the Bay Area soils, maybe more viable for Myrica ruba seedlings.

David

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:34 pm
by shaneatwell
Is it possible they're missing their symbiot Frankia?

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:46 am
by sokoo
shaneatwell wrote:Is it possible they're missing their symbiot Frankia?


That could be one factor.
I have never successfully raised a yangmei seedling in a pot, even just for a few months. In comparison, I have never killed a single M. cerifera or M. californica, either in pot or in the ground.
For all the yangmei seedlings in the ground, it makes a big difference whether it receives good shade.

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:18 pm
by yeti17
I had a pleasant surprise last week: two yangmei seedlings in my seedbed! I bought 100 seeds from a Chinese Ebay vendor, and planted 50 on January 18, and 50 two weeks later after cold stratifying. There is so much disagreement about pre-treatment, that I scarified some of them (rubbing on concrete pavement :-D), treated some with GA, and cold stratified some. Some received two treatments, and others all three. I didn't keep track of which got which because I'm lazy. Whatever the case, 2% germination after a little over two months is better than what I got before.

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Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:25 pm
by yeti17
Oh, before treating the seeds, I cut three open to see if they looked viable. Two were smaller, and were EMPTY inside (just a thick seed coat, no inner kernel). The third was larger and had what looked like a viable inner seed. I didn't want to cut any more open, so I can't say how many were actually duds, but this may explain why some people get low germination with this plant.

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:40 am
by yeti17
Seedling #3 just emerged! The other two are looking great so far; I keep them under my patio- they get mostly indirect sun and a few hours of direct afternoon sun. I occasionally acidify the irrigation water to 5.5 or so. If you're interested in the Chinese Ebay vendor, I can post it here.

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:04 pm
by mattcoug
yeti17 wrote:...If you're interested in the Chinese Ebay vendor, I can post it here.

Please do!

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:47 pm
by DavidLJ48
This year I had a better graft take, on my largest and most growth flushed rootstock; last year it only kept one male graft, but this year, it kept two QiBi grafts and one of them is going crazy with growth. The next largest rootstock took one male graft low on the plant; and my potted rootstock again, did not even take one graft again.

I have concluded that they need to have a very good flush, for the grafts o take, and they need put on, here in the Central Valley, in March, if not mid Feb or so. The Myrica cerifera I have, seems to almost grow some all winter long, if not too cold, as it has been the last few years; but for the grafts to take, they need a supper good growth flush.

With this understanding, I can see why in China, why they maybe are soil planting the rootstock, for grafting.

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:35 am
by sokoo
Here are a few pictures from last year. Anyone else has interesting updates?

Re: That Myrica rubra stuff from a few years back

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:38 am
by sokoo
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