can you see this photo???
The following thread was started by fred on December 30, 2005 at 6:43 pm PST
work yet?
The above followup was added by fred on December 30, 2005 at 6:45 pm PST.
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The above followup was added by fred on December 30, 2005 at 6:50 pm PST.
I see it
The above followup was added by eric in W. Seattle on December 30, 2005 at 8:06 pm PST.
Compared to what happened to mine or Eric's, which I drove by and took this pic of the other day:
The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on December 30, 2005 at 9:13 pm PST.
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The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on December 30, 2005 at 9:15 pm PST.
...got a severe haircut. At least it will be easy to protect now. I didn't see it before the foliage was cut off. It's hard to say just how badly the leaves were damaged, because the owner loves to prune the heck out of this thing even when its healthy
The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on December 30, 2005 at 9:18 pm PST.
Erics's look pretty toasted. Will they come back from that if they get much worse? They still look to be hanging in there though...
The above followup was added by BryceS on December 30, 2005 at 9:19 pm PST.
How cold did it get in Corvallis? Even my washy's unprotected fronds didn't receive that much damage. My unprotected fronds look about the same as Fred's palm does. How does the spear look, is it still solid? Well, we all know this palm is a risk bet in this area. I get more complements from my 6 1/2 foot tall robusta than I ever do from my 10 foot tall fortunei, Washingtonias are just better looking, in my opinion.
Tomorrow I will be heading for warmer climes and towering Cocos nucifera, Kauai. Now that I have been told by my wife we will move out of our house within two years, I am eager to plan my new garden. I hope to get some ideas while there. Not the plants but the style and composition.
I hope those Oregon washy's are restored to their former glory by July.
Fred nice looking palm it was worth your attempts to post. Your palm will be towering over the roof before too long.
The above followup was added by JB-Seattle on December 30, 2005 at 10:11 pm PST.
...at my place and the Corvallis airport and probably similar at Eric's fraternity house. Bryce, I must say I have no clue whether they'll make a recovery next year. The big one probably will, but I'm not sure about Eric's. JB, I agree that Washies are better looking than Trachycarpus when smaller, but when they get tall in windy areas the fronds get really tattered and ugly-- more so than any trachycarpus. Have fun in Kauai.
The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on December 30, 2005 at 10:23 pm PST.
The whole willamette valley in oregon got hit hard while up in Seattle and by the water you guys barely got below 30F. It got down to 20F here in Sherwood and I got slight damage on my robusta not like the ones in Corvallis. Also the washingtonia in Tualatin (also Sw portlant) recieved slight damage but still not as extensive as the central valley. That extra three degree drop to 17F in Corvallis might have been all the difference between slight damage and severe damage.
The above followup was added by Aaron, SherwoodOR on December 30, 2005 at 10:29 pm PST.
Be sure to keep us updated Eric/Ryan.
I would love to know how they make out. My very first palm was a Robusta. It looked like Eric's did by the end of Nov 2 yrs ago. The nursery that sold it to me said they were very hardy and no problem with our winters. By the time it got that bad, I dug the it up, brought it back, got refunded and bought some other things instead. Man I was bummed. Then I found this board and all has been very good since then. If Eric's make it, I would be tempted to give it another shot, I too like the Robusta's better.
The above followup was added by BryceS on December 30, 2005 at 10:41 pm PST.
That three degrees does make a HUGE difference apparently with Washingtonia. If you remember back to Jan '04 those palms saw 60 hours straight of freezing rain and freezing temps down to 20F and took much less damage. Given that bit of data, I would have thought they'd take 17F with no damage at all if the freeze lasted less than 12 hours. Boy was I wrong! Perhaps the 2 week succession of overnight freezes had an additive damage effect...
The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on December 30, 2005 at 11:23 pm PST.
Ryan, we got a lesson in the limits of these plants. Its a true 9A palm. Anything below 20F and theyre fried.
The above followup was added by Aaron, SherwoodOR on December 31, 2005 at 1:45 pm PST.
In zone 9a, the average winter is between 20F and 25F. This means that in an AVERAGE winter the Robusta will take little to no damage. But the zone number is an AVERAGE! Even zone 9 climates can get into the teens F on occasion, even 10F or lower! Much of the Oregon coast is 9a yet sees its records in the 0-10F range...
W. Robusta really needs a zone 9b to get by in the long run. It takes the 9a and 9b winters okay and can priobably squeak through an 8b winter too. Anything below that and they are doomed...
The above followup was added by Eric, Eugene on December 31, 2005 at 5:09 pm PST.
In zone 9a, the average winter is between 20F and 25F. This means that in an AVERAGE winter the Robusta will take little to no damage. But the zone number is an AVERAGE! Even zone 9 climates can get into the teens F on occasion, even 10F or lower! Much of the Oregon coast is 9a yet sees its records in the 0-10F range...
W. Robusta really needs a zone 9b to get by in the long run. It takes the 9a and 9b winters okay and can priobably squeak through an 8b winter too. Anything below that and they are doomed...
The above followup was added by Eric, Eugene on December 31, 2005 at 5:10 pm PST.
Yeah my Washingtonias sure did get fried. I thought the same thing as Ryan in that they wouldn't be damaged to badly by those dips into the high teens on those couple of nights considering how much less damage they got in Jan '04 when the temp dipped to 19F. '03-'04 winter was their first winter in the ground too! I didn't even bother protecting them this time since I figured it was only below freezing for around 12 hours and wamed into the mid 40s every day. I guess I will take this as a lesson learned. Now I'm not exactly sure what to do about them in order to try and get them to come back next spring. Any Ideas there? The spears all seem good and solid right now but time will tell. The Butias right next to the washys didn't have the slightest hint of damage.
The above followup was added by Eric, Corvallis OR on January 01, 2006 at 5:02 pm PST.
...if it ever looks like its going to dry out for a couple days, I'll spray mine with a fungicide. Under our current state of constant rain or at least drizzle, there's seeming no point in spraying. My washies and T. latisectus already have visible fungi growing on the spears and emerging fronds-- and the damage has gotten somewhat worse since I first posted pics (although not dramatically so).
The above followup was added by Ryan, Philomath, OR on January 01, 2006 at 7:52 pm PST.
Interesting to see the damage down the Willamette Valley and even out at Sherwood down to 20F. Portland did not get in the teens.
Hillsboro is always coldest of the Metro area.
I'm in Garden Home and only got down to 25 at the most. Of course it was that cold multiple times but the east winds kept my garden up around 30F for lows many nights when the outlying areas were in the low 20's. Even 25F toasted many zone 9 aloes and tender Agaves left out in the open in pots.
The above followup was added by Steve in Portland z8b on January 02, 2006 at 9:02 am PST.