Trachycarpus sp nova Roger/Ryan
I would love to see some pics, I reckon Ryan has the biggest in the world outside of china.
The following thread was started by Nigel on November 18, 2009 at 9:39 am PST
So nova could have a bit of princeps after all in it. White on the backs, with the trunks of martianus....wow!
The above followup was added by James on November 18, 2009 at 10:36 am PST.
...Nigel, Like I mentioned in the post, they may be approaching 5' tall, but they are all fronds. The trunks are still tiny, maybe about the size of a typical 5-gallon potted T. fortunei, and not yet full diameter at the base. I'm certain they are nowhere near the largest around since I don't water them, fertilize them, aument the soil for them, or keep grass away from their bases. They are probably my most neglected palms, although they do get full sun.
The white backs are still largly limited to the emerging fronds and not to the level of my true T. princeps. Perhaps not much better than some of the more white-backed T. fortunei specimens. Here is a pic--

The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 18, 2009 at 12:10 am PST.
These are for sure the largest I have seen and well different to fortunei.
Maybe it really is a princeps fortunei hybrid.
Can you post a photo of a leaf to show the leaf divisions.
The above followup was added by Nigel on November 18, 2009 at 1:11 pm PST.
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The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 20, 2009 at 9:33 am PST.
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The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 20, 2009 at 9:35 am PST.
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The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 20, 2009 at 9:36 am PST.
...this one is gets 4-6 hrs of sun per day and used to look alot different than the 'Novas' when it was grown in full sun.

The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 20, 2009 at 9:42 am PST.
Those are beautiful palms Ryan, totally different from a regular Trachy. I must have one now. Great shot and love the T. princeps too. My T. princeps are only half gallons size but I planted them late summer this year. Hope they are hardy.
Your one of few people that have noticed their 'Nova" with white on the backs when they get bigger. Very interesting photos! Thanks for sharing them.
The above followup was added by Roger in Olympia 8b on November 20, 2009 at 10:48 am PST.
I think the true T. princeps is going a much slower growing palm than T. fortunei. I'd expect 3-6" of trunk per year instead of the 1-3 feet per year that is typical with fortunei.
The above followup was added by Ryan, Monroe, LA on November 20, 2009 at 1:07 pm PST.
Thank you Ryan, very interesting.
I dug mine up just over a year ago when I came to brasil or they would be same size as yours.
Will be very interesting to see again in another year, but I have the feeling ti will only be a beautiful plant in a sheltered area away from winds.
The above followup was added by Nigel on November 22, 2009 at 9:06 am PST.