the winter waggie whisker for Dennis
Dennis look here to the first picture from my wagie and see below unther the leaf !!
it's winter here to , till now not so heavy frost but you will see wagie and fortunei all rimmed with frost !
best regards from Belgium
hope we will have spring soon !!!!
and also all the best to you all for the new year !
James Verhaegen
www.europalms.be
The following thread was started by James Belgium on December 28, 2004 at 1:24 pm PST
the winter waggie whisker for Dennis
other picture from trachycarpus fortunei !
The above followup was added by James Belgium on December 28, 2004 at 1:26 pm PST.
James,
great pictures. the waggies are beautiful with whiskers!
The above followup was added by Tracy on December 28, 2004 at 6:40 pm PST.
The waggie is in the first pic, and underneath the leaf is what Denis calls a waggie whisker.
It seems only waggies have them so it may well be an identifying feature.
The above followup was added by Nigel on December 29, 2004 at 1:09 am PST.
I was tipped off by Herbert (Europe) about features of the wagnerianus leaf. I discussed it with a few Asians across the Pacific. If any westerner should have credit it's probably Herbert. He's probably the first (Internet user) to know outside Asia. He made me look. After spotting the filaments (sometimes two) under the leaf base, I used the term waggie whiskers as a colourful way to use a term (while I had a lack of better words in English) to describe the feature.
I'm sure that Jeff likes my attempt. lol
Some dislike the term waggie but I don't mind it. I think that using wag or vwaggie is clear enough.
I was the first to mention it on message boards but it brought little interest. A few thought it was a joke. While others looked...word spread. It did spread quickly in British Columbia. It's only this year that I feel that it has really caught on.
I assume that Gibbons has known for a long time. I wonder why that detail is not in his description on wagnerianus. I guess that it might be in the new pub called "Palms".
Europe seems to lead the way in Trachycarpus information. I use Gibbons details to identify palms but interpretation of said material might vary among palm enthusiasts. I may use some of "my" own details to verify. Such is the case with the wagnerianus filaments.
I've noticed that wagnerianus is as variable as fortunei.
Nigel, I wish that British Columbia could take sole credit. But Europe had a strong hand in the "discovery".
Happy New Year
The above followup was added by Denis -Victoria, BC on December 29, 2004 at 11:56 am PST.
Great picture of wagnerianus. I like the frost on the leaves. I haven't had a big frost yet but it may happen later.
Trachy groves are great for T. fortunei palms as their fronds tatter much less in groupings.
I'm assuming that's a reason why you have grouped Trachys.
Cheers
The above followup was added by Denis -Victoria, BC on December 29, 2004 at 12:06 am PST.
Of course when is a waggie not a waggie?? Ay what point does the filament not appear? What percentage of fortuneii prevents this?
I had some with and some without ,from various sources, Herbert has almost all of mine now growing in Europe!!
The above followup was added by paul on December 30, 2004 at 8:48 am PST.